Gay Marriages. Should They Be Abolished?!

[SassybutSweet]

Ok over here the president was talking about banning gay marriages. And alot of people were angry about it. But I really love the idea. I don't judge people, so don't get me wrong. But to me gay marriage makes a mockery of everything that REAL marriage is supposed to be about. Marriage is something that was meant for man and women. Not two people of the same sex. And to me it is a mockery. What dose everyone else think?! Do you think I have a point?! Or do you think I'm just mean?! Give me ya feedback!!

[jukka7]

i agree gay marriages should not be legalize, doing so would not look good to young people, they may interpret it as something good. I have nothing against gay people, they could live together and do what they want but legalizing marriage would be like encouraging them. We must support them yes, but we should not encourage them.

[boneyboy0]

tough one, to condone gay marriage would be to go against the bible, but to ban them would be to go against their human rights...

I have to go with their human rights as I am not religious

[jukka7]

but rights come hand in hand with resposibility. What about the responsibility to the society and to the next generation?

[boneyboy0]

twenty years ago we thought HIV was a `gay only` desease. a hundred years ago we thought women shouldn't vote. two hundred years ago, women were being burnt all over Europe for being `witches` . five hundred years ago we thougt the world was flat.

society moves with the way people think, we have to think forward, our kids have to be taught that we are all different and diverse. I think there is nothing wrong if two people feel the need to tell the world they love each other, be they gay or straight.

one of the nice things about being in this world is that you have the right to a different opinion. and the right to express it openly.

[jukka7]

what else can i say , as humans we do adapt to our environmetns, i guess same could be said about the society. However, am not sure if it is the same with morality? could morality be adaptable? i believe morality is a case by case basis, depending on different factors, however, i dont think it is changeable.

[boneyboy0]

morality is just what the majority want, if the majority of people wanted to marry their TV sets then that would be socially acceptable too.


we have to change the way the majority see things, one opinion can change the worlds point of view

we should all try to be more open to viewpoints that differ from our own

it boils down to wether we like or dislike/feel uncomfortable with something, if we do then we don't want it near us

[SassybutSweet]

what else can i say , as humans we do adapt to our environmetns, i guess same could be said about the society. However, am not sure if it is the same with morality? could morality be adaptable? i believe morality is a case by case basis, depending on different factors, however, i dont think it is changeable.

I agree, morality is not adaptable. It is a certain amount of standards and that is that. People who feel that morality is adaptable, are not living by the moral code. But instead are living by what they believe is moral, when in reality it is not. And that is what gays are doing when they decide to marry.

BoneyboyO I hear what you are saying. But when do people in general draw the line. People change with their opinions, whch is a scary thing. Because it holds no future for the children. It seem like every year standards are dropping and the most deplorable things are all of a sudden accepted. The scary thing is, the fact that people or accepting every and anything. Will dating underaged children soon be acceptable?! The decline of moral standards are scary. And it needs to be controlled. Starting with banning gay marriages.

[boneyboy0]

to say morality is unchangeable is wrong. morals change with every new generation. what was not acceptable to our forefathers becomes less of a crime to their succesors. I agree that it is scary

underage kids will never be acceptable to me. but in some contries in africa and india you can get married at 14, thats underage to me. but it is accepted over there, over there it is morally just. that doesn't mean its acceptable to you or I. we consider monogamy moral, but in parts of the world polygamy is considered moral.

in some parts of america it is considered a moral obligation to be part of a racist group, even going as far as to say it is a christian duty. that is one moral obligation I won't be sticking to.

the key thing is to keep morals high by educating people about what morals are and wether they are acceptable or worthy of being called moral.

to ban same sex marriage just shows peoples unease with them, it wont control or stop them, same sex relationships will contine as they have done since before the christians jumped on the band wagon some 2000 years ago. why not let them get married, or should we make them do it behind closed doors? where we can not see them. out of sight, out of mind.

let gay couples have the same rights as the rest of us, why not? it won't kill anyone.
morals are changeable, if they were not then we would still be burning women for being midwifes. morals have changed a lot over the last 500 years, we no longer have child labour, at least in the western world because we no longer consider it moral. we change our morals as we evolve as a race , its just our own personal morals that may differ from someone else's.

that was a long post, I`m going for a nap now

[jukka7]

why not let them get married, or should we make them do it behind closed doors? where we can not see them. out of sight, out of mind.

this seems to be a case of "if we cant beat them, join them" case of thinking. Does it mean that if we cannot stop other crimes, we must accept them as well, just because we cant stop them?

[SassybutSweet]

I agree jakka7. It dose sound like a if we can't beat em join em kind of thing.

boneyboyO, I would preffer for them to go and do it behind doors. So that those of us who do not believe in this, won't have to be exposed to it. And children won't have to be confused. I know I sound mean, but I have to say how I feel about this. I know its not pretty, so don't think I'm mean.

[boneyboy0]

jukka7, why does it sound like that? because my opinion is different to yours? I may not want to be gay but that doesnt mean I want to ban gay marriage

drugs are a big crime, in actual FACT when the dutch government legalised cannabis and started to control where and how it was used, the crime rate for cannabis users fell dramatically,( over 70%) are you saying we should not follow their example, same goes for sex crimes over there too, there is hardley any rape, thanks to the fact that visiting a brothel isnt a crime.

you will NEVER stop these crimes from happening, prostitutes were in the bible after all. so what now? shoot them? or rather learn from the dutch and change other things to make it less attractive to do these crimes

the post started off about gay marriage, then it got sidetracked by morals, we can discuss these two things till the cows come home but the fact that we have differing opinions will remain the same,

having different opinions is part of life, if you are homophobic then thats ok, I am not, that should be ok too, no we wont stop people choosing to be gay, it is not something they can be cured of, it isnt a disease, are they less human for being gay? no, so are their rights any less important than yours? no.

do you know why gays want to be allowed to get married? if you dont then maybe you should find out before making any judgements. before I found out I was against i too!


sassy, i dont think you are mean, we all have our own opinion, you have both stated yours, I have stated mine, whats mean about that? nothing.

[jukka7]

by the way, am not homophobic, lots of gay friends and i agree people do differ on their opinion and got no question about that.

[boneyboy0]

good lets get back to debating then

[SassybutSweet]

Hmmm I don't know what else to debate about on this one. BoneyboyO shut-down the debate!! It was a pretty good argument, I don't know what else to say. Except for, EVERYBODY DANCE NOW!!1 Ok I was hearing that song in my head all day long, and I just let it out now. In case anyone is wondering, yup I'm crazy!!